"Getting Some Mookie" - The 2020 Los Angeles Dodgers Season Thread
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The Laureano suspension when compared to the Kelly suspension, given the circumstances, is really a head scratcher. Kelly had a couple of pitches get away from him. That is not unusual. Then, when the ASSteriskos starting chirping at him, he quietly walked to his own dugout, making some pouty faces (which WERE priceless.) On the other hand, Laureano gets hit by a hanging breaking ball (second HBP of the game) and charges the opposing dugout.
Apparently, the mind readers in the MLB office felt Kelly intentionally threw at the ASS team in retaliation for the cheaters stealing the 2017 WS. Only problem, Kelly wasn't even on the 2017 (or 2018) Dodgers. Incidentally, one of those pitches was an 84 mph breaking ball. MLB is stupid beyond belief.
Apparently, the mind readers in the MLB office felt Kelly intentionally threw at the ASS team in retaliation for the cheaters stealing the 2017 WS. Only problem, Kelly wasn't even on the 2017 (or 2018) Dodgers. Incidentally, one of those pitches was an 84 mph breaking ball. MLB is stupid beyond belief.
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Hero!!! "So now the players get the immunity, and all they do is go snitch like little *****..."
— Joe Kelly
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Hero!!! "So now the players get the immunity, and all they do is go snitch like little *****..."
— Joe Kelly
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What Joe Kelly’s podcast appearance revealed about the Astros-Dodgers rivalry
By Pedro Moura Aug 13, 2020 123
Joe Kelly repeatedly criticized the Houston Astros and Major League Baseball on a teammate’s podcast Thursday, adding context to his role in the Dodgers’ response to the Astros’ cheating scandal and illustrating that the controversy is far from over.
Kelly said the Astros’ handling of the league’s investigation into their sign-stealing bothered him more than their cheating itself. Houston players received immunity to comply with the league’s investigation, and coaches and executives took the fall. The 2017 team’s general manager, manager and bench coach all lost their jobs.
“When you taint someone’s name to save your own name, that is one of the worst things that you could probably do as a person,” Kelly said on Ross Stripling’s podcast, The Big Swing. “It really friggin’ bugs me. I think I’ll be irritated forever.”
Kelly was not a 2017 Dodger, but he inserted himself into the strife on July 28. During the Dodgers’ first game at Minute Maid Park since the 2017 World Series, he threw two pitches near the Astros’ Alex Bregman and Carlos Correa, then taunted Correa and made pouty faces in his direction while returning to his dugout. Benches cleared and COVID-19 protocols were broken.
Kelly maintained that the throws were inadvertent, but the league ruled differently, suspending him eight games for instigating the confrontation. The announcement made note of Kelly’s role in a 2018 Yankees-Red Sox brawl, when he hit Tyler Austin with a pitch and threw punches in the ensuing fight. He appealed his six-game suspension that time and was denied, after being told he had instigated the brawl by inviting Austin to charge the mound.
He said he was given a similar justification this time.
“Apparently my words again, or my cute face I made, enticed a whole team to come out of their dugout towards our dugout,” Kelly said. “Which is complete bullshit because I socially distanced. I walked away. I didn’t get close. I followed all the guidelines of the CDC, and people on the other side didn’t. They walked out of their dugout, walked towards us. Carlos Correa fucking spit at our team.”
Kelly said it was unfair that no Astros were suspended for the July 28 dispute. Only manager Dusty Baker was fined because his players left the dugout. Kelly claimed that Baker helped instigate and hurt his feelings by body-shaming him.
”They have a manager on their side, verbatim, yelling at me, ‘Get your little skinny ass on the mound,’” Kelly said. “So my cuss words get eight games, and his cuss words get zero? That makes complete sense, right? Welcome to planet Earth. A debacle.”
Kelly recorded his podcast appearance the night of August 2, five days after the incident. Stripling and co-host Cooper Surles waited to release it until Kelly received the ruling on his appeal, which came down Wednesday. Kelly will serve a reduced five-game suspension when he returns from a stint on the injured list because of inflammation in his throwing shoulder.
On the podcast, Kelly said he believed his actions warranted no suspension at all.
“The bullshit that they gave me, their reasoning, is nonsense,” Kelly said. “I have the letters, and they’re lucky I’m not posting their letters because they would just be in a world of trouble.”
Kelly also criticized the league’s response to the coronavirus crisis. He praised the Dodgers’ protocols but noted that teams still fly on planes serviced by flight attendants who are not required to undergo COVID-19 testing.
“The rules and regulations we follow are still not good enough,” Kelly said.
But Kelly spent most of the 45 minutes attacking the Astros and the narrative that staffers, not players, orchestrated their cheating. He has a personal connection to former Astros bench coach Alex Cora, who managed him in Boston during the 2018 season.
“The people that took the fall for what happened is nonsense,” Kelly said. “Yes, everyone’s involved. But the way that thing was ran over there was not from coaching staff. They’re not the head boss in charge of that thing. It’s the players. The players get the immunity, and all they have to do is go snitch like a little bitch.”
Kelly said the Astros players were “not respectable men.” He recalled the teams’ spring training back-and-forth, when Cody Bellinger said Houston had stolen a ring from the Dodgers and Correa told him to obtain more facts before speaking up.
“What Correa said to Belli, Belli had all the facts,” Kelly said. “You don’t tell my teammate to shut the fuck up, and then spit at us during a pandemic. That ain’t right.”
Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said Thursday he had not heard the podcast but had been informed of some of Kelly’s comments.
“He definitely didn’t hesitate to share his disdain for the Astros players, and that’s the sentiment with a lot of players around the league,” Roberts said. “They’re all gonna handle it their own individual way.”
On a FOX pregame show, Justin Turner sidestepped a question about what Kelly’s comments portend about the Astros’ scheduled Dodger Stadium visit next month. He, too, said he had not yet listened to Kelly’s appearance. But, from snippets, he gleaned that he agreed with a key sentiment of Kelly’s diatribe: This will be with him forever.
“It’s something that I think all of us are gonna live with for the rest of our lives,” Turner said. “Just to say, ‘Oh, it’s done, it’s over with, move on,’ I don’t think is a reality for anyone. I think around the league, there are a lot of guys upset, who kind of feel like the punishment didn’t really fit the crime. I don’t know if that’ll ever go away for me.”
By Pedro Moura Aug 13, 2020 123
Joe Kelly repeatedly criticized the Houston Astros and Major League Baseball on a teammate’s podcast Thursday, adding context to his role in the Dodgers’ response to the Astros’ cheating scandal and illustrating that the controversy is far from over.
Kelly said the Astros’ handling of the league’s investigation into their sign-stealing bothered him more than their cheating itself. Houston players received immunity to comply with the league’s investigation, and coaches and executives took the fall. The 2017 team’s general manager, manager and bench coach all lost their jobs.
“When you taint someone’s name to save your own name, that is one of the worst things that you could probably do as a person,” Kelly said on Ross Stripling’s podcast, The Big Swing. “It really friggin’ bugs me. I think I’ll be irritated forever.”
Kelly was not a 2017 Dodger, but he inserted himself into the strife on July 28. During the Dodgers’ first game at Minute Maid Park since the 2017 World Series, he threw two pitches near the Astros’ Alex Bregman and Carlos Correa, then taunted Correa and made pouty faces in his direction while returning to his dugout. Benches cleared and COVID-19 protocols were broken.
Kelly maintained that the throws were inadvertent, but the league ruled differently, suspending him eight games for instigating the confrontation. The announcement made note of Kelly’s role in a 2018 Yankees-Red Sox brawl, when he hit Tyler Austin with a pitch and threw punches in the ensuing fight. He appealed his six-game suspension that time and was denied, after being told he had instigated the brawl by inviting Austin to charge the mound.
He said he was given a similar justification this time.
“Apparently my words again, or my cute face I made, enticed a whole team to come out of their dugout towards our dugout,” Kelly said. “Which is complete bullshit because I socially distanced. I walked away. I didn’t get close. I followed all the guidelines of the CDC, and people on the other side didn’t. They walked out of their dugout, walked towards us. Carlos Correa fucking spit at our team.”
Kelly said it was unfair that no Astros were suspended for the July 28 dispute. Only manager Dusty Baker was fined because his players left the dugout. Kelly claimed that Baker helped instigate and hurt his feelings by body-shaming him.
”They have a manager on their side, verbatim, yelling at me, ‘Get your little skinny ass on the mound,’” Kelly said. “So my cuss words get eight games, and his cuss words get zero? That makes complete sense, right? Welcome to planet Earth. A debacle.”
Kelly recorded his podcast appearance the night of August 2, five days after the incident. Stripling and co-host Cooper Surles waited to release it until Kelly received the ruling on his appeal, which came down Wednesday. Kelly will serve a reduced five-game suspension when he returns from a stint on the injured list because of inflammation in his throwing shoulder.
On the podcast, Kelly said he believed his actions warranted no suspension at all.
“The bullshit that they gave me, their reasoning, is nonsense,” Kelly said. “I have the letters, and they’re lucky I’m not posting their letters because they would just be in a world of trouble.”
Kelly also criticized the league’s response to the coronavirus crisis. He praised the Dodgers’ protocols but noted that teams still fly on planes serviced by flight attendants who are not required to undergo COVID-19 testing.
“The rules and regulations we follow are still not good enough,” Kelly said.
But Kelly spent most of the 45 minutes attacking the Astros and the narrative that staffers, not players, orchestrated their cheating. He has a personal connection to former Astros bench coach Alex Cora, who managed him in Boston during the 2018 season.
“The people that took the fall for what happened is nonsense,” Kelly said. “Yes, everyone’s involved. But the way that thing was ran over there was not from coaching staff. They’re not the head boss in charge of that thing. It’s the players. The players get the immunity, and all they have to do is go snitch like a little bitch.”
Kelly said the Astros players were “not respectable men.” He recalled the teams’ spring training back-and-forth, when Cody Bellinger said Houston had stolen a ring from the Dodgers and Correa told him to obtain more facts before speaking up.
“What Correa said to Belli, Belli had all the facts,” Kelly said. “You don’t tell my teammate to shut the fuck up, and then spit at us during a pandemic. That ain’t right.”
Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said Thursday he had not heard the podcast but had been informed of some of Kelly’s comments.
“He definitely didn’t hesitate to share his disdain for the Astros players, and that’s the sentiment with a lot of players around the league,” Roberts said. “They’re all gonna handle it their own individual way.”
On a FOX pregame show, Justin Turner sidestepped a question about what Kelly’s comments portend about the Astros’ scheduled Dodger Stadium visit next month. He, too, said he had not yet listened to Kelly’s appearance. But, from snippets, he gleaned that he agreed with a key sentiment of Kelly’s diatribe: This will be with him forever.
“It’s something that I think all of us are gonna live with for the rest of our lives,” Turner said. “Just to say, ‘Oh, it’s done, it’s over with, move on,’ I don’t think is a reality for anyone. I think around the league, there are a lot of guys upset, who kind of feel like the punishment didn’t really fit the crime. I don’t know if that’ll ever go away for me.”
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Longtime viewer of this group, love the posts from real Dodger fans.
Have been a lifelong fan myself since the days of transistor radios and Vin Scully fading in and out at night trying to hear the games from SF Bay Area....
Greetings from the Great Northwest
Giving credit to Chris Paddock :
In his post game interview he was very humbled and gave credit to a great lineup. I don’t think with his stuff he will have many days like this.I have thought for awhile the Padres are very close to being a very good team and this season proves they are more than close.I am not laughing at them anymore.
With the farm system they have in place it will not be fun to play them at any point in the next 5 years.
I also am glad we spent our money on Mookie and NOT Manny.
Some thoughts:
I do love what we have in our pen.Even though Alexander had a bad outing he has been pretty good.I don’t always agree with Roberts with his by the Joe Torre book strategy for sure.Almost never at times.However with what we have now I think we can say it is almost impossible for him to screw things up.
Which Also brings me to the point about Jensen.I Like others here do not feel he is closer material any longer.All this talk about adding velocity and better conditioning? I see an overweight guy with iffy stuff.I always felt he was luckier than actually great.Better lineups will expose him.
The last comment is I regret the fans are not seeing Mookie show what type of player he is.
Longtime viewer of this group, love the posts from real Dodger fans.
Have been a lifelong fan myself since the days of transistor radios and Vin Scully fading in and out at night trying to hear the games from SF Bay Area....
Greetings from the Great Northwest
Giving credit to Chris Paddock :
In his post game interview he was very humbled and gave credit to a great lineup. I don’t think with his stuff he will have many days like this.I have thought for awhile the Padres are very close to being a very good team and this season proves they are more than close.I am not laughing at them anymore.
With the farm system they have in place it will not be fun to play them at any point in the next 5 years.
I also am glad we spent our money on Mookie and NOT Manny.
Some thoughts:
I do love what we have in our pen.Even though Alexander had a bad outing he has been pretty good.I don’t always agree with Roberts with his by the Joe Torre book strategy for sure.Almost never at times.However with what we have now I think we can say it is almost impossible for him to screw things up.
Which Also brings me to the point about Jensen.I Like others here do not feel he is closer material any longer.All this talk about adding velocity and better conditioning? I see an overweight guy with iffy stuff.I always felt he was luckier than actually great.Better lineups will expose him.
The last comment is I regret the fans are not seeing Mookie show what type of player he is.
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