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I just wanted to say that after watching season 7, episode 4 for the second time, that was the greatest episode of any TV show I've ever seen. I'll probably watch it a few more times before episode 5 airs.
 

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I just wanted to say that after watching season 7, episode 4 for the second time, that was the greatest episode of any TV show I've ever seen. I'll probably watch it a few more times before episode 5 airs.
I thought last week was incredible but this week topped it in spades. While we have to wait a week to see if Jamie is trout food, I very much enjoyed Briene and Arya's sword practice. Arya is a badass.
 

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I just wanted to say that after watching season 7, episode 4 for the second time, that was the greatest episode of any TV show I've ever seen. I'll probably watch it a few more times before episode 5 airs.
I agree. This episode was absolutely off the charts. I am astonished that even a hugely successful show like this would be allowed to spend what must have been the cost of producing that fantastic battle scene.

It is way too hard for me to believe an enormously central character like Jamie would be killed off in such a pedestrian manner. If he had been incinerated by the dragon perhaps that would have been fitting. But knocked into deep water (found only about 2 inches offshore?) just doesn't seem nearly up to the standards of a show that has creatively come up with endings like being eaten by your own dogs. I'm pretty confident we'll see him somehow rise to the surface at the beginning of the next show. When he gets killed off I expect a much more spectacular ending for him.
 

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I agree. This episode was absolutely off the charts. I am astonished that even a hugely successful show like this would be allowed to spend what must have been the cost of producing that fantastic battle scene.

It is way too hard for me to believe an enormously central character like Jamie would be killed off in such a pedestrian manner. If he had been incinerated by the dragon perhaps that would have been fitting. But knocked into deep water (found only about 2 inches offshore?) just doesn't seem nearly up to the standards of a show that has creatively come up with endings like being eaten by your own dogs. I'm pretty confident we'll see him somehow rise to the surface at the beginning of the next show. When he gets killed off I expect a much more spectacular ending for him.
It was a fantastic episode. I marvel at the production & find it incredulous. No way Jamie is dead. He needs to be alive because BadAss Arya is going to kill Cersei w/Jamie's face. Totally my prediction but that would be seriously great.
 

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It was a fantastic episode. I marvel at the production & find it incredulous. No way Jamie is dead. He needs to be alive because BadAss Arya is going to kill Cersei w/Jamie's face. Totally my prediction but that would be seriously great.
I've seen speculation elsewhere, that Arya will kill Cersei with Littlefinger's face. I do agree that there's no way that Jamie is dead yet. Why bother having Bronn save him from the dragon's blast, just to have him drown in a less spectacular manner.
 

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I thought last week was incredible but this week topped it in spades. While we have to wait a week to see if Jamie is trout food, I very much enjoyed Briene and Arya's sword practice. Arya is a badass.
 

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I thought last week was incredible but this week topped it in spades. While we have to wait a week to see if Jamie is trout food, I very much enjoyed Briene and Arya's sword practice. Arya is a badass.
I loved Arya's answer when Brienne asked her who taught her to fight like that. "No one".
 

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It was a fantastic episode. I marvel at the production & find it incredulous. No way Jamie is dead. He needs to be alive because BadAss Arya is going to kill Cersei w/Jamie's face. Totally my prediction but that would be seriously great.
I think the deep water was a metaphor for the deep shit Jamie is in. I figure he is rescued out of the water by a Dothraki and he is used as a bargaining chip (think Road Warrior and the hostages attached to the front of the vehicles in the chase scene). But, in the end, I see Arya using Jamie's face to kill Cersei. Herself doesn't want to believe this because she thinks Cersei is a survivor and will somehow rebuild after she loses Westeros.
 

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I loved Arya's answer when Brienne asked her who taught her to fight like that. "No one".
Yeah, this. Plus when Bran mentioned Arya's list after Sansa pretty much thought it was a flight of fancy. Arya is a pretty bad ass weapon in any battle.
 

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Yeah, this. Plus when Bran mentioned Arya's list after Sansa pretty much thought it was a flight of fancy. Arya is a pretty bad ass weapon in any battle.
I love Arya. She's by far my favorite character. I don't expect this to happen, but I think it would be so cool if she ended up on the Iron Throne wearing Cersei's face.
 

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I agree. This episode was absolutely off the charts. I am astonished that even a hugely successful show like this would be allowed to spend what must have been the cost of producing that fantastic battle scene.

It is way too hard for me to believe an enormously central character like Jamie would be killed off in such a pedestrian manner. If he had been incinerated by the dragon perhaps that would have been fitting. But knocked into deep water (found only about 2 inches offshore?) just doesn't seem nearly up to the standards of a show that has creatively come up with endings like being eaten by your own dogs. I'm pretty confident we'll see him somehow rise to the surface at the beginning of the next show. When he gets killed off I expect a much more spectacular ending for him.
Here's a great video showing the production of that battle scene. The expense must have been ridiculous.
 

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Here's a great video showing the production of that battle scene. The expense must have been ridiculous.
Fantastic. I really appreciate that you showed me that video as I literally had no idea how they could have filmed that amazing scene. Thanks!!
 

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Fantastic. I really appreciate that you showed me that video as I literally had no idea how they could have filmed that amazing scene. Thanks!!
Glad to do it. I remember seeing a similar video last year about the Battle of the Bastards.
 

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I think the deep water was a metaphor for the deep shit Jamie is in. I figure he is rescued out of the water by a Dothraki and he is used as a bargaining chip (think Road Warrior and the hostages attached to the front of the vehicles in the chase scene). But, in the end, I see Arya using Jamie's face to kill Cersei. Herself doesn't want to believe this because she thinks Cersei is a survivor and will somehow rebuild after she loses Westeros.
Yeah, that ain't happening. Everyone on Arya's list is dead meat.
 

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I love Arya. She's by far my favorite character. I don't expect this to happen, but I think it would be so cool if she ended up on the Iron Throne wearing Cersei's face.
She's my fave as well. Arya had me from day one. I knew she was destined for badassary.
 

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She's my fave as well. Arya had me from day one. I knew she was destined for badassary.
Originally, my favorite character was Ned. I still haven't quite forgiven GRRM for killing him off so quickly. Someone on twitter, last night, posted a couple of photos showing that Arya was now sporting the same hairdo that Ned wore.
 

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I am going to chime in, too. I loved this episode. I got to see a dragon go nuts and I loved it. Just do not kill Jamie! I like him a lot since he spent all that time with Brienne. Chris thinks I like Cersei, but I do not. I just think she is like a cockroach and you cannot kill cockroaches. I have never really liked Sansa, she does not have a backbone and she lets Littlefinger lead her around like a puppy.
 

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I am going to chime in, too. I loved this episode. I got to see a dragon go nuts and I loved it. Just do not kill Jamie! I like him a lot since he spent all that time with Brienne. Chris thinks I like Cersei, but I do not. I just think she is like a cockroach and you cannot kill cockroaches. I have never really liked Sansa, she does not have a backbone and she lets Littlefinger lead her around like a puppy.
Sansa has always been my least favorite Stark, but it looks like she's wise to Littlefinger. I would love to hear Bran tell Arya that their whole family might still be alive if Sansa hadn't told Cersei about Ned's plans.
 

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Holy Shit! That bombshell that Gilly started to tell Sam about Rhaegar's annulment and re-marriage, practically knocked me out of my chair.
 

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Holy Shit! That bombshell that Gilly started to tell Sam about Rhaegar's annulment and re-marriage, practically knocked me out of my chair.
When Gilly said that line, both me and Herself got big eyes and we so wanted her to go on with who Rhaegar married first. Another very good episode, Herself thought that John Snow was showing some jealousy when Jorah kept on hugging on Daenerys. I wonder if John will lose Jorah in the Great White North. Littlefinger needs to die a slow death at Arya's hand. He still wants to get in Sansa's drawers. I don't buy that both Bronn and Jamie swam that far away from the dragon. Someone has some 'splainin' to do. Herself is proud of her thinking. She was the first to say that she thinks John Snow is a Targaryen because the dragon didn't incinerate John and looked like he liked him. How many episodes left, this season? One? Two?